Published: Tue, July 31, 2018
Global Media | By Garry Long

Giuliani says he doesn't know if Trump would pardon Cohen

Giuliani says he doesn't know if Trump would pardon Cohen

Giuliani's comments came a day after Trump attacked the special counsel Robert Mueller, who is tasked with investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, on Twitter. "You start analyzing the crime - the hacking is the crime".

"The president didn't hack", Giuliani said.

Giuliani say negotiations are continuing with Mueller's office regarding the conditions for an interview.

The President has repeatedly denied that there was any collusion between his campaign and Moscow. But Giuliani has said Trump's legal team is less enthusiastic because Mueller and his staff might seek to believe witnesses who contradict Trump's account, such as former FBI Director James Comey.

Instead, Comey continued, the question is whether any Americans conspired with a foreign government to commit crimes against the United States, which is a crime.

Giuliani, speaking to CNN on Monday, said he "wouldn't pardon him if he did that to me". One of those people has already been sentenced and served a month in prison, while three others pleaded guilty and await sentencing.

In a series of tweets about the Russian Federation investigation on Sunday, Trump claimed that Mueller has multiple conflicts of interests, including "the fact that we had a very nasty & contentious business relationship".

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It was then reported that Cohen says Trump knew of a meeting in NY in June 2016 between key aides and several Russians promising compromising information on Hillary Clinton.

It was not immediately clear what the President meant when he claimed there were conflicts of interests involving Mueller.

Ethics experts from the Justice Department determined past year when Mueller was appointed special counsel that his participation in the matters assigned to him is appropriate. "How can the president make this claim, and not support it?" asked a bewildered Camerota, to which Giuliani responded simply: "Because he doesn't have to".

Giuliani also addressed the supposed conflict, but said that he'd leave it to the President to offer up details.

Pressed further on the conflict allegation, Giuliani said, "I can't tell you".

Asked what it might say about Trump's judge of character that a man once so close to him had turned on him, Giuliani turned to figures, one fictional and one real, from Shakespearean tragedy: "He turned out to have a close friend betray him, like Iago betrayed Othello, like Brutus put the last knife into Caesar". "I'm sure they are in bad faith about an interview at this point". I have a good idea.

Giuliani also called Cohen a "scumbag" and repeated a claim that investigators have seized more than 180 tapes made by Cohen, which he claimed without offering evidence Cohen had doctored, and said no one on the tapes knew they were being recorded.

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